This episode is reworked especially for our current exhibition Listening Stones Jumping Rocks from Pip Adam’s keynote lecture at the Ngā tohu o te huarere: Conversations beyond human scales conference in November 2021.

Touching on works featured in the exhibition, such as Sorawit Songsataya's The Interior, her discussion is based on the novel she was working on as 2021 Writer-in-Residence at the International Institute of Modern Letters, about a group of giant humans banished from earth in a spacecraft powered by sound. This fictional work explores features of our existing carceral and policing systems and attempts to offer experiences of alternative forms of justice.